Survey: Admit transgender contestants in beauty pageants?
Discuss.
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April 15th, 2012 at 19:07
Hindi. Wala silang matris.
April 15th, 2012 at 20:37
Hmmmmnnnn..I think transgender contestants should be allowed to participate. In the human rights perspective, the European Court on Human Rights had already ruled that transgenders should be accorded the same rights as women because per medical or psychological reasons, they are women except that they do not have ovaries.
Further, beauty contests are mostly supercifial i.e. who has the best goods(natural or artificial). So based on physical appearances alone, transgenders qualify.
It would also be fun to know how hardcore feminists would react to the entry of transgenders in the beauty contest world. They already oppose the objectification of women blah blah blah yet here comes a new form of competition who could very well outdo them in the pabonggahay factor.
It would also be interesting to know how feminists would extend their arguments to cover or exclude transgenders, who have different issues from the biologically female. And most transgenders live for this sort of thing why deny them the joy of doing something which they have long been supporting?
April 16th, 2012 at 00:18
So being a mere transvestite isn’t sufficient to be admitted?
April 16th, 2012 at 01:40
Sa akin, OK lang.
Pero please, huwag naman silang sumali pa sa Little Miss Philippines huhuhu T_T
April 16th, 2012 at 02:44
I understand the decision though I don’t necessarily promote it.
1. Let’s face it, the wider audience of Miss Universe has ceased to be women. It has shifted to GAY MEN.
2. Do women still place beauty queens in high regard? Are beauty pageants still relevant?
3. The Donald Trump factor: MONEY. The decision… of allowing transgendered women to join Miss Universe is not at all a gender equality issue. It’s about RATINGS.
4. The template of a Miss Universe beauty queen has changed. Gone are the days of the beauty queen doing the ceremonial walk in a cape and scepter. Gone are the days of The Little Sisters of Namibia, Hong Kong, etc. Gone are the days of having three Question and Answer portions.
Miss Universe, Donald Trump-era, is all about physical female beauty, natural or artificial. In the future, female robots would probably be able to join as well. They just need to define what a “female robot” actually is (e.g. having breast missiles similar to Mazinger Z’s Aphrodite A).
5. Miss Universe is, after all, a brand. It’s like Lady’s Choice mayonnaise — it could be a gentleman’s choice, but the brand will always be Lady’s Choice. The “Miss” in Miss Universe is just part of the branding. But if we’re going to be strict about it…
6. Let’s rethink the title “Miss Universe”. Say, “Sir/Ma’am Universe”?
April 16th, 2012 at 03:13
In response, I will share a Facebook friend’s status. Can’t think of how to improve upon it.
“People who argue that the “dignity” and “pride” of some superficial beauty pageant should be “preserved” and “protected” from “forceful” entry of transgenders really have to revise their own standard for what things are worthy of pride and dignity, and what things are so stupid it should be irrelevant – like beauty pageants.”
April 16th, 2012 at 10:40
Should we put more animals in the circus? Sounds fun!
April 16th, 2012 at 11:58
No. Not because I am anti-transgender whatsoever, but I think it is much better if they will make a different pageant for them. Like Ms. Transgender of the Universe, Bagong Binibini ng Pilipinas, or anything that is new. I find it insulting if transgenders will be treated equally as women. No. Please, no.
April 16th, 2012 at 16:54
admit straight men as well. men are way too beautiful than women.
April 16th, 2012 at 20:44
There is a huge possibility that Thailand will overtake the Philippines!
April 17th, 2012 at 01:51
don’t care either way because i don’t watch it anymore.
as for another topic, how about the female IBM CEO not being admitted to boys only Augusta National Golf Club?
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/masters-tournament-augusta-national-golf-club-admit-female/story?id=16073133#.T4xbrtl-jTQ
April 17th, 2012 at 09:49
I wish I had seen this sooner. Of course, I am all for it. This has been a long time coming. It is also time to stop the nonsense that transsexual women are “fake/not real women.” We are as real as can be and made up of the same cells, tissue and flesh as the next girl/woman. The idea of “genetic womanhood” is a harmful myth akin to being a Stepford Wife. It is completely ridiculous, oppressive and disempowering to womankind.
Plus, it is a beauty pageant. It is not Miss Uterus/Miss Vagina/Miss Do You Think You Can Bear A Child. But I agree that pageants objectify women, are ridden with politics, and all about money. It is time to rethink them. There was a time when it was an insult to straight men for gay men to claim equality with them. That has changed.
Transwomen in the Miss Universe is simply part of the natural evolution of the human race.
April 17th, 2012 at 14:14
Napanood ko sa news, naghahanap sila ng mga opinion tungkol dyan. Isa sa mga ininterview nila, isang grupo ng bading, at pati sila di boto na payagan ang mga transgender sa Ms. Universe.
Kung equality lang ang pag-uusapan, eto ang sakin:
Para sa kin medyo unfair lang. Kung natural born ka na babae at nagparetoke ka, big deal na un agad dahil ineexpect talaga ng mga tao na natural beauty mo ung pinapakita mo. Pero kung transgender ka, malamang may kasamang retoke na ung surgery mo other than ung gender augmentation mo. Plus hormone treatments pa. So, ibig sabihin ok lang magparetoke ung mga transgenders pero ung natural na babae hindi? Parang sa sports na papayagan magsteroids at ibang performance enhancing drugs ung ibang players pero ung iba hindi.
April 17th, 2012 at 15:00
I see, so transgender people shouldn’t be treated equally. Yeah, that’s not anti-transgender at all.
Personally, it’s a fantastic chance to see how humans measure up to nature. Can man make a better woman than biology? We have the technology!
April 17th, 2012 at 21:51
Why can’t they leave these pageants to the natural born women? Don’t they have their own pageants to attend to?
Di ako agree. Maganda si Jenna, paradise-level goddess si robot, pero hindi siya babae.
April 18th, 2012 at 01:05
Thanks, PinayTG! Hope you don’t mind that we’re quoting you verbatim in our InterAksyon column.
April 23rd, 2012 at 00:12
Yes, I am in favor of accepting transgender contestants in beauty pageants.This will be liberating to everyone, a gesture of valuing freedom and being true to oneself. Their inclusion will expand the playing field and probably bring the competition to another level, different parameters (e.g., will swimsuit portion be retained?) and make it more interesting, and hopefully, more honest.